November 9, 2026
Our listeners had feedback about the Brad Pitt episode, and Laura McKowen and Eric Johnson sit down to talk about it.
What starts as a conversation about celebrity sobriety becomes something much bigger: how we build our identities in recovery, why other people's choices can feel so personal, and how easily our own fears can show up as judgment.
Laura shares why no one needs to experience devastating consequences to have a valid reason to get sober. Eric digs into why we look to others for reassurance in our sobriety and what happens when those people choose a different path.
Together, they discuss the importance of humility, the freedom to define sobriety for yourself, and why curiosity might be one of the most valuable tools we have in recovery.
Whether you're newly sober, years into recovery, or simply questioning your relationship with alcohol, this conversation is a reminder that your sobriety doesn't have to look like anyone else's.
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